April 3, 2024

S27E41: Earth's Puzzling Past: The Greenlandic Birth of Scandinavian Lands

The Space, Astronomy & Science Podcast.
SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 41
*The Scandinavian Connection: Born from Greenland's Ancient Crust
In a groundbreaking geological study, scientists have traced the oldest Scandinavian bedrock back to its...

The Space, Astronomy & Science Podcast.
SpaceTime Series 27 Episode 41
*The Scandinavian Connection: Born from Greenland's Ancient Crust
In a groundbreaking geological study, scientists have traced the oldest Scandinavian bedrock back to its origins in Greenland, revealing a continental connection dating back 3.75 billion years. Published in the journal Geology, this research uncovers a hidden chapter of Earth's crust beneath Denmark and Scandinavia, suggesting a tectonic detachment from Greenland that predates previous estimates by a quarter of a billion years. The discovery, locked within zircon minerals, not only reshapes our understanding of continental drift but also underscores Earth's uniqueness in the solar system as a cradle for life.
*Blue Origin's Orbital Reef: A Leap Towards Commercial Space Habitats
Blue Origin, in collaboration with Sierra Space, has achieved a significant milestone in the development of the Orbital Reef commercial space station. Under NASA's watchful eye, the project has successfully tested key life support systems essential for sustaining human presence in orbit. With a potential operational date as early as 2027, Orbital Reef aims to provide a voluminous habitat for ten occupants, marking a new era in space exploration and research as the International Space Station approaches retirement.
*Space's Role in Climate Change Monitoring Intensifies
The World Meteorological Organization's latest report delivers a stark reality check, with 2023 witnessing unprecedented levels of greenhouse gases, rising seas, and melting ice. In response, the fleet of Copernicus Sentinel satellites operated by the European Union plays an increasingly vital role in monitoring our changing planet. These eyes in the sky offer critical data, from sea ice dynamics to deforestation, aiding policymakers in crafting strategies to combat the escalating climate crisis.
*Dragon's Bounty: A Resupply Mission Brimming with Scientific Promise
SpaceX's CRS-30 mission, aboard the upgraded Dragon spacecraft, has successfully docked with the International Space Station, delivering over 2.7 tonnes of vital supplies and novel experiments. This cache of scientific endeavors includes a joint CSIRO-Boeing 3D mapping project, the Burst Cube satellite for studying cosmic gamma-ray bursts, and the GEARS initiative for identifying antibiotic-resistant microbes in space. With over 250 experiments in progress, the orbiting laboratory continues to be a beacon of discovery and innovation.
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This is spacetime series 27, episode 41 for broadcasts on 3 April 2024

Stuart Gary: This is spacetime series 27, episode 41 for broadcasts on the 3 April 2024. Coming up on Spacetime, a new study that shows how Scandinavia was actually born in Greenland. Blue Origin's planned orbital reef space station passes an important milestone and the growing role of space in monitoring climate change. All that and more, coming up on spacetime.

Generic: Welcome to Spacetime with Stuart Gary.


New study finds Scandinavian bedrock likely originated in Greenland

Stuart Gary: A, uh, new study looking at the oldest scandinavian bedrock has found that it actually originated in Greenland. The findings, reported in the journal Geology, helped scientists understand the origins of continents and why the Earth is the only planet in our solar system to harbour life. The key was uncovered in a finnish outcrop nestled between some of northern Europe's oldest mountains. There, geologists found traces of a previously hidden part of Earth's crust that points back more than 3 billion years in time and west towards Greenland. The evidence was actually found locked in the mineral called zircon, which, after chemical analysis, showed that the formation upon which Denmark and Scandinavia rest was probably born from Greenland some 3.75 billion years ago. One of the study's authors, Todd Wright from the University of Copenhagen, says the data suggested the oldest parts of Earth's crust beneath Scandinavia originate in Greenland and is about 250 million years older than previously thought. The author's study of the zircon showed that in several ways, its chemical fingerprints match those of some of the oldest rocks on the planet, which were found in west Greenland's north atlantic craton. Wright and colleagues say that the zircon crystals, which were found in rivers, sand and rocks from Finland, have signatures that point towards them being much older than anything else ever found in Scandinavia, while at the same time matching the age of greenlandic rock samples. And the results of three independent isotope analyses confirms that Scandinavias bedrock was most likely linked to Greenland. Denmark, squid and Norway and Finland rest on top of a part of the Earth's crust known as the fennoscandian or baltic shield. The authors believe that it broke away and shifted for hundreds of millions of years until it eventually took root where Finland is today. Here the plate grew as new geological material accumulated around it until it eventually became Scandinavia. Now, at the time of this tectonic plate's detachment from Greenland, the planet looked very different to what it does today. Wright says. The Earth was probably a watery planet, but without any oxygen in the atmosphere and, uh, without any emergent crust. The fact that the Earth even had a continental crust composed of granite is quite special. When you look into space and compare our planet with other planets having a tectonic plate system with continental granite crust is unique in the solar system, and evidence of liquid water, as well as a granite crust, are, uh, key factors when trying to identify habitable worlds and the possibility of life beyond Earth. This new study adds fresh pieces to a primordial continental puzzle that began long before life on Earth truly blossomed, but, uh, which largely paved the way. Understanding how continents formed helps scientists understand why Earth's the only planet in the solar system with life on it. That's because without fixed continents and water in between them, life couldn't have evolved. Indeed, continents influence both ocean currents and climate, which are both crucial for life on Earth. The authors say their findings contribute to a growing number of studies which have rejected the means used so far to calculate how continents have grown, especially during the first billion years of Earth's history. The most commonly used models assume that Earth's continental crust began to form when the planet was formed 4.6 billion years ago. But instead, several recent studies have suggested that the chemical signature showing the growth of continental crust can really only be identified about a billion years later. Riot says the new results add to previous research that found similar seeds from ancient crusts in other parts of the world. It provides another important clue in the mystery of how continents formed and spread across the planet, especially in the case of the finna scandinavian shield. But of course, there's still plenty science doesn't know. Uh, in Australia, South Africa and India, for example, similar seeds have been found. But the authors are unsure as to whether or not they come from the same birthplace, or whether they originated independently of one another in several different places on Earth. This spacetime still to come, engineers working on Blue Origin's proposed orbital space station pass a major milestone. And we look at the growing role of space in monitoring climate change. All that and more still to come on, um, spacetime.


Scientists working on Blue Origin's orbital Reef commercial space Station project have completed milestone

Scientists and engineers working on Blue Origin's orbital Reef commercial space Station project have completed a major testing milestone for the future orbital outpost crucial life support systems. It's one of four milestones needed to be met under NASA's Space act agreement, which is funding the project. The objective this time focused on the materials and designs for systems to clean, reclaim and store the air and water crucial for human spaceflight. The joint Blue Origin Sierra space project is being designed to support ten people in modules totalling some 830 cubic metres of volume, which could be operational as soon as 2020. The current International Space Station has modules totalling just over 1000 cubic metres of living space. The milestones being set by NASA are crucial for ensuring that any future commercial space station can support human life. NASA wants these commercial space stations to be operational so they can continue having access to low Earth orbit space for conducting important scientific research. Once the existing international space station reaches the end of its operational life sometime around 2030, each completed milestone allows NASA to gain insight progress on the new station's design and development on UM, the current International Space Station. Components for the environmental control and life support systems maintain clean air and water for astronauts. The regenerative system recycles and reclaims most of the water and oxygen produced by normal human activities. And yes, that really does include drinking water recycled from urine and sweat. Of course, it is all purified and disinfected before it reaches your lips. And importantly, it significantly reduces the amount of additional payload that needs to be flown up to the space station on supply missions. The new orbital reef space station will have a similar system in place. All four milestones are testing different parts of the system, including a trace contaminant control test, a UH, water contamination oxidation test, a urine water recovery test and a water tank test. The trace contamination control test screens materials to remove harmful impurities from the air. NASA is currently supporting the design and development of multiple commercial space stations, including blue origin's orbital reef. This is spacetime. Still to come, the growing role of space in monitoring climate change. And dragon delivers more supplies to the International Space Station. All that and, uh, more still to come on, uh, spacetime.


New report from World Meteorological Organisation confirms climate change has smashed records

A new report from the World Meteorological Organisation has confirmed that climate change has smashed all previous records for greenhouse gas levels, surface temperatures, ocean heat and acidification, sea level rise, antarctic sea ice coverage and glacier melting and retreating. The study shows that 2023 was on average some 1.45 degrees celsius above pre industrial baseline levels. Scientists found that glaciers suffered the largest loss of ice on record and antarctic sea ice was some 1 million square kilometres below the previous record lows for summer.

Stuart Gary: While much of the data supporting this new study was based on direct observations taken at weather stations around the planet, an increasing amount is being gathered by weather and environmental satellites orbit the Earth and the European Union's constellation of Copernicus sentinel satellites makes up the largest single fleet of climate change monitoring spacecraft in existence. The sentinels provide systematic data for environmental services that will help people adapt to the worsening change. This report from ESATV.

ESA TV: All over Europe, climate change is a growing concern. With global sea levels rising between 16 and 20 centimetres since 1900. Climate change is undeniably having an effect on oceans, land surfaces, ice caps and weather patterns across the globe. It is well understood that climate change is caused by atmospheric gases such as carbon dioxide and methane. When we look at these trace gases, there is an obvious correlation between human activity and climate change.

Speaker D: CO2 concentrations of the atmosphere. Over the last 800,000 years, these values are going up and to down, uh, in different, uh, phases. Over the last 800,000 years, the value was always below 300 parts per million. And suddenly since the last century, it goes up very steep towards 400 parts per million or even beyond. And, uh, this is what we have today. This is the increase of carbon dioxide, uh, drastically increasing over the last hundred years caused by human beings.

ESA TV: In order to tackle climate change, scientists and governments need reliable data to understand how our planet is changing. This can be provided by ESA, which monitors our planet from space with EU, Copernicus, sentinel missions and Earth explorer missions in orbit. Ice thickness and coverage. Deforestation, soil moisture, sea level and ocean surface temperature, as well as other essential climate variables can be measured. These satellites have global coverage, revisiting the same region every few days, therefore providing a good understanding of the health and behaviour of our planet and how it's affected by climate change. In turn, this offers decision makers key information for mitigating strategies and policies.

Speaker D: Frequency and consistent observations of our environment are very important if we want to give decision makers the key into their hand. On where humankind has to change, practises where we have to be mitigating for encroaching impacts on our environment.

ESA TV: Satellites can show us how the world has changed, like in the Camargue, France, where the coastline has retreated more than 200 metres in the last 20 years. In the 1980s, sea walls were constructed here in a failed attempt to stop the rising water. Back then, sea level was rising, but more slowly than it is now. Over the last five years, records show that the rise in sea level is accelerating. Soon part of this delta will be lost to the sea. And what is happening here is happening in many parts of the globe. Worldwide, more than 370 million people live less than five metres above sea level. Over 100 megacities, such as New York or Tokyo, are near the water. All are at risk. Satellite data gives us the facts so that we can prepare ourselves for the rising tide and protect coastline populations. This data is also used in ESA's climate Change initiative, where ESA scientists preserve and work with long term datasets going back to 30 years and more to get an even better understanding of climate change. Thanks to satellites, we have evidence that the planet is in danger. Now it is up to people on Earth to take the necessary measures in time. The key for sustaining life on Earth might come from space.

Stuart Gary: And in that report from ESA TV we heard from Josef Ashbacher, the director of ESA's Earth observation programmes and Michael Rass, ESA's Earth observation senior advisor. This, uh, is spacetime. Still to come, SpaceX's dragon delivers more supplies and scientific equipment to the International Space Station. And later in the science report, the new implantable battery that uses the body's oxygen to deliver a stable electrical supply.


Space Exploration Technologies Falcon nine successfully launched from Cape Canaveral on Tuesday

All that and more still to come on uh, spacetime critical new scientific experiments and technology have arrived aboard the International Space Station as part of NASA's latest commercial resupply mission. The SpaceX CRS 30 mission docked to the Harmony Zenith port aboard the orbiting outpost two days after launching from the newly reconfigured Space Launch Complex 40 at the Cape Canaveral Space Force base in Florida. It was the first flight to use the upgraded launchpad which has been equipped with a new crew access tower and arm allowing it to be used for manned space missions.

Commentator: For our growing launch manifest, we've made new upgrades to space launch complex 40 including a brand new tower and access arm which enables more efficient late load operations as well as human spaceflight missions. With these updates we are on our way to having two launch pads capable of supporting flying humans to space.

Generic: Stage two locks load complete with stage two locks load complete. That gets us inside the two minute marker to countdown checkouts on the second stage, thrust vector control have passed. We'll get to uh, engine gibbling and wiggle test on the first stage much closer before ignition. At the time of launch, the International Space Station will be flying 260 statute miles off the border of Mexico and Guatemala. Talk at nine is in startup.

Commentator: We are now in start.

Generic: Dragon is in countdown.

Commentator: Um, and Dragon is in countdown. Range remains go for launch. Waiting for that final go from the SpaceX launch director.

Generic: SpaceX launch director go for launch.

Commentator: You heard that call out. The launch director has given that final go. All systems are go for launch of Falcon nine in the CRS 30 mission.

Stuart Gary: 987-65-4321 ignition and lift off at a Dragon territory.

Generic: Three tonnes of science and cargo take flight on NASA's SpaceX 30th commercial resupply Services mission. Falcon nine at 1.7 million pounds of thrust. Pitching downrange, hearing good calls of performance. Nominal trajectory as Falcon nine and Dragon arc out to the northeast.

Commentator: Falcon nine has successfully lifted off from slick flight at Cape Canaveral Space Force station. During ascent we will tilt or gimbal our engines, guiding the rocket into what we call a gravity turn. Through this turn, the vehicle is flying both up and down horizontally away from the launch pad. Now, this rocket typically needs to go about 17,500 mph horizontally in order to make it to orbit and avoid being pulled back down to earth. Some moments ago, we did throttle the engines down in preparation for max Q for maximum aerodynamic pressure in just a couple seconds. Max Q. There was that call out for Max Q. And coming up, we have a few events in quick succession, starting with main engine cutoff, followed by stage separation, second engine startup one, and the start of the boost back burn. For the first stage, MVAC is chilling. There's the call out. The M vac engine on the second stage is chilling in getting ready for startup. Now, the first of these events is main engine cutoff, or Miko, where the nine Merlin 1D engines on the first stage will shut down in preparation for stage separation, which is where stage one and two will separate from each other, with the first stage making its way back down to earth and the second stage performing, uh, second engine start one, which is where we ignite that single Merlin vacuum engine. On board the second stage, the boost back burn will then start on the first stage. This burn helps assist the vehicle flip back around and reorient itself back to land.

Stuart Gary: Mikko.

Commentator: Stage separation confirmed. Stage one boost back startup. There you heard those events happening back to back again. We had main engine cutoff of the first stage. Stage separation, second engine start on the second stage, and that first stage doing the awesome flip as it starts its boost back burn. Now, this burn is a little under a minute, so we have about 20 seconds left in this burn, and about three minutes after that, we will have two additional burns on the first stage to prepare to land back at landing zone one at Cape Canaveral. We are at t plus three minutes and 30 seconds. Here in today's mission, CRS 30 is SpaceX's phase one boostback shutdown. There's that confirmation for the boostback shutdown of, uh, the first stage. And a nominal trajectory against CRS 30 is SpaceX's 27th launch this year. And we are coming up on the entry burn of the first stage, as well as second engine cutoff and around t plus six minutes and 30 seconds. You should see the first stage's entry burn. And for the entry burn, we relight three of the M M 1d engines on the first stage, starting with the centre engine nine, followed shortly by engines one and five, which slows the vehicle down as it passes back into the earth's atmosphere. We need to slow down to reduce reentry forces, which helps us to recover and reuse. The first stage, the second stage, and that Merlin vacuum engine heating up as it performs its burn. Four hypersonic grid fins deployed, helping steer that first stage down as it makes its way back home to Earth. Just about 20 seconds from the start of our first stage entry burn.

Stuart Gary: Stage one entry burn startup.

Commentator: There is the start of the stage one entry burn. And this is a three engine burn on the first stage of Falcon nine. Stage one entry burn shut down. Um, yes, that's safe. And the stage is nominal trajectory and the call outs for nominal trajectory and the flight termination system being safe. Now, the first stage that is supporting today's mission has just performed this entry burned for the 6th time. Falcon nine is the world's first orbital class reusable rocket. And this allows SpaceX to reflight the most expensive parts of the rocket, which in turn drives stage one transonic drives down the cost of access to space. Now, coming up, we have that landing burn starting in just a few moments. There's the start of stage one landing burn. Start of that landing burn. Stage one landing leg deploy. Wow. That first stage landing back at landing zone one, that landing marks SpaceX's 286 recovery of an orbital class rocket, including the first stage landings for Falcon nine and heavy. You heard that call out that stage two fts is safe. Getting ready for second engine cutoff.

Stuart Gary: M vac shutdown.

Commentator: There is that second engine cutoff with the m vac shutdown call out. Waiting for confirmation of a good orbital insertion orbit. Insertion. There is that confirmation of good orbit. It looks like we are on track for dragon separation in, uh, just a few minutes, just before the t plus twelve minute mark. It has been a great launch so far. As I mentioned earlier, today's launch was the first for our upgraded dragon to be flying from slick 40 after we stopped flying the older, uh, version of Dragon back in 2020. And in addition to flying cargo to support crew on board the space station, SpaceX also enables researchers the opportunity to fly critical science to orbit on dragon, which has carried over 1000 research experiments to and from low Earth orbit and the International Space Station since 2012. Enabling research in space paves the way for us to explore beyond Earth and make life multiplanetary. Now we are waiting for dragon to separate from Falcon Nine's second stage. And for those of you following along, this dragon capsule has also supported CR's 22, CRS 24, and CR's 27, which were three additional cargo resupply missions to the International Space Station. At about tip plus eight and a half minutes, we had a successful second engine cutoff followed by confirmation of a good orbital insertion. The vehicle is now coasting with dragon attached and we are just about 30 seconds away from spacecraft separation. Dragon floating away there. Dragon is drifting away from Falcon nine. Second stage there. Confirming good spacecraft separation.


The Dragon capsule fitted aboard the Falcon nine rocket carried more than 2.7 tonnes of supplies

Stuart Gary: The Dragon capsule fitted aboard the Falcon nine rocket was loaded with more than 2.7 tonnes of supplies and cargo. The payload included advancing studies crucial for understanding sea ice dynamics and for facilitating plant growth in microgravity. Also included in the manifest was the joint CSIRO Boeing project to test the ability of a multi resolution scanner to create three dimensional maps of the space station. This new technology will be used by the Astrob robots to enhance their own three dimensional sensing and mapping capabilities for autonomous operations, and not just aboard the International Space Station, but also for use on future Artemis lunar missions and for the soon to be built lunar gateway space station as well. Also aboard the CRS 30 mission was the new burst cube compact satellite. It's designed to observe gamma ray bursts, the universe's most powerful and energetic explosions. These blasts, which are the most powerful since the Big Bang itself, typically occur during neutron star collisions. Burst Cube will be launched from the space station and expand sciences observational capabilities to study these extreme events, improving detection through both electromagnetic and gravitational wave signals. Dragon also carried equipment for the genomic enumeration of antibiotic resistance in space, or gears initiative, which is aimed at identifying antibiotic resistant microbes aboard the space station through in flight gene sequencing. This project will explore bacterial adaption to space conditions, yielding insights which will be crucial for astronaut health on UM, extended missions and for developing preventative strategies. Also aboard was Redwire's pharmaceutical in space laboratory platform. It's designed to crystallise organic molecules in microgravity, which could lead to improved therapeutics to treat an array of illnesses and conditions. Other equipment was supplied by the National Stem Cell foundation to continue to examine mechanisms behind neuroinflammation, a common feature of neurodegenerative diseases, using three dimensional brain models derived from induced pluripotent stem cells of patients with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease, as well as primary progressive multiple sclerosis. Meanwhile, Airbus, US defence and Space have supplied an enhancement for the space station's bartolomeo external platform called Argus. Argus will host multiple payloads including space tv one, an optical video system designed to live stream high definition views of the Earth and the space station. Theres also a project from the University of Connecticut designed to examine producing nanomaterials in microgravity, which could help repair cartilage and reduce joint inflammation, significantly improving patient care for orthopaedic injuries and degenerative joint diseases like arthritis. Another experiment will test novel gene therapy proposals designed to prevent and possibly even reverse vision loss from age related macular degeneration. And uh, theres also a project to leverage the microgravity environment to validate an automated tumour on chip system that grows patient derived cancer cells to test chemotherapy drugs. And theyre just some of the 250 experiments currently being carried out aboard the International Space Station.


Scientists have developed a battery which uses the body's oxygen to deliver power

This is spacetime and time now to take another brief look at some of the other stories making news in science this week with the Science Report. Implanted medical devices all rely on batteries, which eventually run low and require invasive surgeries to replace. To, uh, solve this problem, scientists have just successfully tested a new type of battery which uses the body's oxygen to deliver a stable power supply. The findings, reported in the journal Chem, claim the current design can produce enough power to run a device like a pacemaker. But the authors hope that this will soon follow on, now that they've shown it's possible. A two legged biohybrid robot which uses muscle tissue to improve movement, has been developed by japanese scientists. A report in the journal Matter claims the new robot is designed to mimic human walking. It operates in water with a foam buoy on top and weighted legs to help it stand upright. Made mostly from silicon rubber that can bend and flex. The robot also has lab grown skeletal muscle tissue, which is attached to the rubber in each leg. By zapping the muscle tissue with electricity, the researchers were able to make the robot walk, turn, stop and even make fine tuning motions. A UH new report warns that Google has interfered with elections in the United States on at least 41 occasions since 2000. The findings by the Media research Centre also claim Google's new AI tool Gemini, won't answer negative questions about Democrat President Joe uh Biden. The study claims Google's algorithms likely shifted at least 2.6 million votes to Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election. The authors claim the tech giants admitted publicly that it uses its great strength, resources and reach to advance its own values. The report also cited research by all sites researcher Robert Epstein showing that Google's results and get out to vote reminders favoured democrats and shifted the 2020 presidential election results by at least 6 million votes. Google has strongly denied the claims. Samsung have started rolling out updates to allow some older cell phones to provide some of the features available through AI compatibility with the details we're joined by technology editor Alex Zahara Vroyd from tech advice.


Samsung Galaxy S 23 range is now starting to get the one UI 6.1

Start live.

Alex Zaharov-Reutt: The Samsung Galaxy S 23 range is now starting to get the one UI 6.1. And this is the version of the Samsung operating system that will give the Samsung Galaxy S 23 range as well as the fold five and the flip five, a number of the same AI enhanced features that the Galaxy S 24 range came with a standard. Things like translating languages in phone calls, being able to use the voice recorder to convert voice to text and automatically summarise things and a number of the uH, AI features inside of the photo editing photo viewing gallery. So this was announced that those features would be coming to some of the older Samsung devices, but it's taken a few months since the launch and uh, it won't be available for everyone around the world at the same time, it'll sort of be a staggered rollout. But if you've got a Samsung Galaxy S 23, one of the models, or one of the recent fold five or flip five models, then you should start to see some of those AI features being rolled out. And I'm sure the operating system will uh, want to tell you about it when the update's done and you can try them and see what they're like for yourself.

Stuart Gary: The other big news, I guess is how many Aussies, uh, are hoarding old phones.

Alex Zaharov-Reutt: Yeah, well according to uh, the Australian Mobile Telecommunications association, which runs the mobilemaster.com dot au website, they're saying that there are approximately 22 million phones sitting in drawers, of which 14 million of those are not able to be uh, turned on or updated anymore because they're just too old. And apparently a lot of men are ah, worried that the phones cannot be wiped anymore, even, even though there are instructions at the mobile master website on how to wipe your iPhone or Android. But the mobile master people are saying that, look, even if you can't turn your device on anymore, we will make sure that the data is wiped, especially when it gets recycled. It's not going to be switched on and have all that information pilfered. So you can recycle the older phones, the precious metals in there can be recovered and if you have an older phone that's sort of three or four years old, you're not using anymore and you're sort of keeping it as a spare. I mean you can actually still sell those as a refurbished device, they can still be used by somebody else in your family or you can sell it on Gumtree somewhere as long as you've wiped it off all your personal data. So uh, the problem is that people have, you know, three or four different phones in their drawers, no longer useful, and those phones are hoarding precious metals that can go into new phones. So we're definitely you can go to mobilemazta.com dot au in Australia, find where you can drop them off at any phone store. We'll take your older phones and even things like old routers and um, make sure that they're recycled.

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